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Hanselminutes Podcast 225 - Learning about NHibernate 3 with Jason Dentler

August 12, '10 Comments [4] Posted in Data | Open Source | Podcast
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Thursday, August 12, 2010 2:41:06 PM UTC
There's no denying the power of NHibernate, but as much as it is easy for a random developer to just take a look at the documentation and guides to get started, It takes less effort to use Entity Framework 4's CodeFirst to get up and running with no time. Perhaps i'm more anal about the simplicity of tutorials and guides, but then again, give a none EF4 developer the CodeFirst guide that the Gu has created and give another developer the Start-up Guide to NH and notice who gets what running faster.
Omar S. Abou Mrad
Thursday, August 12, 2010 3:34:29 PM UTC
Scott, I thought this was going to be about NHibernate 3. The whole time you guys talked about NHibernate 2 and previous, there was almost nothing about what is coming out in 3. What's up with that?
Friday, August 13, 2010 1:30:19 AM UTC
For a good introduction to NHibernate, take a look at http://www.summerofnhibernate.com/ While possible a bit dated with the release of Version 3.0. This gives the nicely paced video seried on developing with the product.
Friday, August 13, 2010 4:16:07 AM UTC
@Scott

First, love your blog/podcast! I'm just starting out in C#/MVC in VS2010 Express. I mess around as a hobby :).

The whole ORM thing is a bit confusing. Conceptually I understand what an ORM does. It's the glue between the classes presented in my app and the DB behind it. I was hoping there'd be some more detail in this podcast about EF vs Linq vs Nhibernate. I noticed you converted Nerddinner.com over to EF from Linq, was there a compelling reason for this? Or was it just "EF is cool?"

As it stands now I have no idea why I'd seek out and use Nhibernate vs EF/Linq given that support for EF/Linq is built-in out of the box. Nhibernate seems great, I just don't understand the implied gain vs EF/Linq I guess.

I'm going to "Google with Bing" and see if I can get some kind of coherent answer out of the interweb about these ORMs and thier mission.

Again, Love the blog/podcast keep up the good work!

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