Scott Hanselman

Nantpad: The Good and the Bad of it

August 17, '04 Comments [8] Posted in Nant | Tools
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Good: Nantpad version 1.0 is out.

Good: Nantpad gives you a friendly way to author and run NAnt build files.

Bad: They have GOT to be kidding with the pricing. $250 a seat for an editor to an open source tool?  Come on, guys, NAnt is NOT that hard to edit.  $25, no brainer.  $50 gives me pause.  $250 must be a joke.  God bless you for trying. Now try again.

For now, I'll continue to use intellisense and VS.NET to edit build files as outlined in a previous post, using either this older schema or one from whenever the 0.85 schema gets updated.

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Scott Hanselman is a former professor, former Chief Architect in finance, now speaker, consultant, father, diabetic, and Microsoft employee. He is a failed stand-up comic, a cornrower, and a book author.

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Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:27:38 PM UTC
WTF?? They must have read the software equivalent of Field of Dreams, "if you develop it, they will buy...".
Tuesday, August 17, 2004 10:02:39 PM UTC
Or, more likely, they read Eric Sink's latest article on product pricing.

"Charge as much as you can get" (not an actual quote, just my summary)

(The entire article is worth reading.)
Tuesday, August 17, 2004 10:30:51 PM UTC
I can't decide if this is hilarious, offensive or both.

Figure things like ReSharper go for $99, CodeSmith for $75 or LLBLGen Pro for less than $250--they're clearly just out of touch or not extremely bright.

Let's help them out and post what we think would be reasonable for them to charge. I wouldn't pay more than $25 personally, I have good editing capabilities for xml and it's just not going to save me that much time.
Tuesday, August 17, 2004 11:19:48 PM UTC
Come on give them a break.

Gotta make a million before msbuild comes out
Wednesday, August 18, 2004 12:09:29 AM UTC
I personally don't think their price point is all that absurd.

It's rather audacious to try to sell something which is an add-on for an open source technology anyway. The vast majority of people who use NAnt are simply not willing to pay a dime for this tool. Many of the ones who *are* willing to pay are probably not all that price-sensitive.

In some sense, these guys have made a conscious choice to go with a "high-price-low-volume" approach. I generally prefer the higher volume strategies, but premium pricing is not as crazy as you might think.

The interesting point for me is that they are selling only through a reseller. I'm sure Component Source is getting 40 points, so the ISV is only going to net 150. They probably set the price high to accomodate these channel costs.

Bottom line: I'm not saying I like their choice, but I think it's conceivable that it could work out okay for them.

Wednesday, August 18, 2004 3:16:56 AM UTC
Amen, Brother. I can't sell this to my boss. :) I am fine using XSD + VS.NET Or good old nxml-mode in emacs.
Thank you very much.
Monday, August 23, 2004 7:21:49 PM UTC
I fully agree with you Scott!
Tuesday, August 24, 2004 7:22:38 PM UTC

I read Erik Sink's article. The piece on price complaints was funny :) It's true. No matter what price you use including paying someone to use your product, there are always people who will complain.
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