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This Developer's Life 1.0.5 - Homerun

October 8, '10 Comments [6] Posted in Podcast
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imageIt's that time again. Time for another lovingly produced episode of This Developer's Life.

I blogged a few weeks ago about a new developer podcast called "This Developer's Life". Twice a month, Between Rob Conery and I, we'll bring you stories from the mouths of real people, some you know and some you don't.

This week we talk to two programmers who hit "homeruns" early in life.

First, David Heinemeier Hansson, creator of Ruby on Rails, who was born in 1979. Next, Dan Bricklin, creator of VisiCalc, the first electronic spreadsheet creating in, yes, wait for it, 1979.

What do you do when you hit a homerun? When do you know it's happened? And what does it mean 30 years later?

For your consideration, here is show 5:

This Developer's Life 1.05: The Homerun

Don't forget, you can subscribe via RSS, via iTunes or via Zune.

Here's our previous episodes, if you want to catch up.

1.0.4 - Being Mean

What makes people mean in our industry? What about aggressive? Confident? What's the difference? Would you rather have a drill sergeant for a boss, or a zen master? We talk to Cyra Richardson and Giles Bowkett.

1.0.3 - Problems

How do you solve problems as a developer? How do you tackle issues that seem completely unsolvable - as an individual or on a team? Mike Moore, Javier Lozano, Tamar Cohen and trouble.

1.0.2 - Fame

Is fame useful for a developer? Should you make a plan and become Internet Famous? Is there value and how does notoriety happen? John Sheehan joins me in the storytelling.

1.0.1 - Getting Fired

It eventually happens to everyone. The real question is, how do you deal with it when it happens to you? Oren Eini and Sara Chipps explore and share.


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Introducing NuGet Package Management for .NET - Another piece of the Web Stack

October 6, '10 Comments [69] Posted in ASP.NET | ASP.NET Ajax | ASP.NET MVC | Nupack
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Microsoft's been filling out the Web Stack with more and more right-sized LEGO pieces lately, and today ScottGu announced the developer preview of NuGet. It's a piece of the stack that's been notably missing for years and after using it for a while now, I'm not sure how I lived without it.

NuGet is a package management system for .NET. The goal of NuGet is to make the process of incorporating third party libraries into your solutions as simple as possible.

Package Management itself is not a new concept. From Apt and "deity" before it at the system-level on *nix, to Ruby Gems, Maven, Synaptic, portage, dpkg, rpm and others, it's a well understood space. There are package managers for operating systems that install machine-wide libraries, and there are package managers for developers and their projects that manage dependencies and install libraries. NuGet takes inspiration from Ruby Gems and adds some .NET specifics.

NuGet - The Idea

Here's how it works. Notice the "Package Manager Console" window at the bottom of Visual Studio 2010. That's PowerShell. (It'll be in View | Other Windows for this release)

MvcApplication4 - Microsoft Visual Studio (4)

I type List-Package and NuGet goes to a central ATOM feed and retrieves a list of packages like this (not complete, I snipped it for the example)

Id Version Description
-- ------- -----------
Antlr 3.1.1 ANother Tool for Language Rec...
Artem.XmlProviders 2.5 Implementation of XML ASP.NET...
AutoMapper A convention-based object-obj...
Castle.Components.Validator 1.1.0 The Validator component is us...
Castle.Core 1.2.0 Core of the castle project
Castle.DynamicProxy 2.2.0 Castle DynamicProxy is a libr...
Castle.Ioc 2.1.1 Castle Project offers two Inv...
EFCTP4 1.0 This CTP is a an early previe...
elmah 1.1 ELMAH (Error Logging Modules ...

tarantino-db-deployer This is a database migration ...
WebFormsMVP A simple Model-View-Presenter...
xunit 1.6.1 is a developer test...

At this point, as an example, perhaps I want to get the ELMAH (Error Logging Modules and Handlers) open source library setup in my MVC project. I have long said that ELMAH, as a project, deserves way more attention than it gets.

One of the reasons that it doesn't get used - as is the case with many .NET open source libraries - is that it takes too much effort to get it working. Unzip it, put it in a folder somewhere in your project, figure out what needs to be added to web.config, you know.

With NuGet, I type "Install-Package elmah" and it's done. If I wanted to be extra cool with PowerShell aliases I could have just typed "install-packageelmah."

PM> Install-Package elmah
Successfully added 'elmah 1.1' to MvcApplication4

And that's it. Elmah is automatically brought down to my machine, a reference is added to my project and everything it needs is merged non-destructively into my web.config.

MvcApplication4 - Microsoft Visual Studio (5)

I'll run my app and hit /elmah.axd just to prove it.

Error log for  on HANSELMAN-W500 (Page #1) - Windows Internet Explorer

Complex Packages and their Dependencies

Looks good. But what if I want to add a more complex project, maybe NHibernate.Linq. From the Package Manager Console I'll start typing install-package nh and get Intellisense for all the packages that are available.


And the console reports:

PM> Install-Package NHibernate.Linq
'NHibernate.Core (>= 2.0)' not referenced. Retrieving dependency...Done 'log4net (= 1.2.1)' not referenced. Retrieving dependency...Done 'Iesi.Collections (= 1.0)' not referenced. Retrieving dependency...Done 'Antlr (>= 3.0)' not referenced. Retrieving dependency...Done Successfully added 'log4net 1.2.1' to MvcApplication4 Successfully added 'Iesi.Collections 1.0' to MvcApplication4 Successfully added 'Antlr 3.1.1' to MvcApplication4 Successfully added 'NHibernate.Core 2.1.2' to MvcApplication4 Successfully added 'NHibernate.Linq 1.0' to MvcApplication4

Notice that NHibernate.Linq knows its dependant on a bunch of other things. All those packages got pulled in and put in the packages folder. Notice the nupkg file there? That's just a ZIP file. Let's look inside.

A nupkg file open in Windows Explorer

Unzipping the nupkg we see lots of stuff. The binary is in there, but also a nuspec file that looks like this. Dig around in there and you'll find some standard packaging namespaces from

NHibernate Linq support is based on the existing, proven in production, Linq provider in NHibernate Contrib. The plans to overhaul that and merge that into NHibernate’s proper for the next release are still active, but the project team feels most strongly that production quality Linq support is something that we ought to provide for our users now.



NuGet walks its way up the dependency chain and gets all the packages it needs, installing each. Packages can add scripts, content, references, and even run postscripts (ahem) written in PowerShell if they need something fancy.

I can even remove all that and its dependancies.

PM> Remove-Package NHibernate.Linq -RemoveDependencies

Let's add a few more interesting packages to my project. First, I'll add David Ebbo's wonderful T4MVC templates.

PM> install-packageT4MVC
Successfully added 'T4MVC 2.6.30' to MvcApplication4

David's project isn't actually DLLs, it's a T4 template and a config file, but no problem, it's added to the project.

T4MVC in my project

Next I'll add the Entity Framework "Magic Unicorn" library that I love so much.

PM> install-packageEFCTP4

You are downloading EFCTP4 from Microsoft, the license agreement
to which is available at ....Check the package for additional dependencies,
which may come with their own license agreement(s).
Your use of the package and dependencies constitutes your acceptance
of their license agreements. If you do not accept the license agreement(s),
then delete the relevant components from your device.
Successfully added 'EFCTP4 1.0' to MvcApplication4

Note that this package includes some licensing stuff, as do many OSS projects, so I'm told as I get it. Finally I'll add SQL Compact Edition 4 as well with a little...

PM> install-packageSQLCE
Successfully added 'SQLCE 4.0.8402.1' to MvcApplication4

I've added NHibernate.Linq and four dependencies, then removed them all. I've added T4MVC, SQL Compact, Entity Framework CTP 4, and ELMAH.

We see we can add basically anything to a solution and it's only modifying the solution, and the packages folder next to it. Nothing is being added to the GAC (Global Assembly Cache) and no one is installing anything or messing with things system-wide. NuGet is about affecting local projects and solutions...and possibly adding functionality to enable me to make changes even faster...

Can you say Scaffolding?

I'll add one more interesting package. It's not a library like EFCTP4, or a database like SQLCE, or a T4 template like T4MVC. It's actually an example of PowerShell scripts that extend the Package Manager Console itself with new commands that interact with my project.

Note: This is just a sample/example, because we want to see and hear what you want, and how you want to use it. Talk is cheap, show me the code! ;)

install-package MvcScaffold


PM> install-packageMvcScaffold

adds new commands to my console via a PowerShell script. It adds Add-MvcView, so I could so something basic like

PM> Add-MvcView Empty
Added file 'Views\Empty.aspx'

But that's not interesting. Let's assume I have a Code First class like this in my project and I've compiled once (in fact, a sample model is included with the EFCTP4 package):

using System.Data.Entity;

namespace MvcApplication4.Models {
public class Product {
public int ID { get; set; }
public string Name { get; set; }
public double Price { get; set; }
public class MyProductContext : DbContext {
public DbSet Products { get; set; }

Since I've got a nice Product, why not:

PM> Scaffold-MvcViews -ModelType Product  Added file 'Views\Product\List.aspx'
Added file 'Views\Product\Details.aspx'
Added file 'Views\Product\Edit.aspx'
Added file 'Views\Product\Create.aspx'
Added file 'Views\Product\Delete.aspx'

Which gives me a nice scaffolded set of views generated from T4 Code Templates (or your custom ones, if you like)


Pretty sweet. A lot has been done and prepped for me and all from the Package Manager Console within VS. I can personally see folks creating templates or meta-packages that encapsulate some CRUD (Create, Read, Update, Delete) best practices and sharing them via NuGet packages.

Can Haz UI?

I've focused on the Command Line, because it's awesome and "computers need to be hard©" but you could have certainly added your packages like this:

Add Package Reference in the Solution Explorer

Clicking Add Package Reference brings up this dialog box. Look familiar?

Add Package Reference Dialog

From here I can search for packages, install, as well as see what packages I've already got installed. I can also check for updates and download new versions.

NuGet Developer Preview

Now this is just a Developer Preview, but look at it generically. We can interact with Visual Studio from PowerShell, package up Open Source libraries, scripts, content or perhaps even meta-packages (install-package hanselpack or install-package dearReaderLibs).

Phil talks about the Guiding Principles for NuGet on his blog. There will be a central feed with no central approval process for adding libraries. The community will police and moderate packages. But, anyone can host a feed. You can host an internal feed at your work, or even just point NuGet at a file system folder and share packages across your group.

Open Source

NuGet is interesting for a couple of reasons. NuGet isn't a classic Microsoft closed-source project; it's been accepted into the CodePlex Outercurve Foundation and is entirely hosted and managed in a Mercurial Repository at the Forge. Developers from inside Microsoft and developers from outside Microsoft have been committing to the same repository. All the bugs and issues are managed transparently on that projects.

Yeah, we're slow, but we're working to turn this ship around. NuGet can, and has, accepted contributions, most recently from some folks on the "Nu" open source project. In fact, working with the Nu folks caused us to change the name of this project from its original name of "NPack" to NuGet. There's been a lot of "Source Opened" at Microsoft and a lot of "Open Source but No Takebacks" with some Open Source, but with NuGet I'm stoked to see us start giving (and taking back) in a more open way.

As Phil says, go over to the NuGet website on CodePlex and check out our guide to contributing to NuGet. It's early, and there's a LOT of work to be done, but we're planning to make this available for use in all editions of Visual Studio 2010.

Get the NuGet Preview today with ASP.NET MVC 3 Beta

Go get ASP.NET MVC 3 Beta and NuGet is included inside. Here's the direct download link.

To summarize:

  • NuGet is open source and in the Outercurve Foundation
  • NuGet integrates with VS and with PowerShell
  • NuGet will have a community managed gallery without central approving authority
  • NuGet won't mess up your computer or install anything outside your solution
  • You can host your own feeds, or read packages out of a network share/folder

The whole team - inside and outside Microsoft - really hopes you like it.

Personal Aside: Changing Jobs

An a related aside, one of the reasons I came to Microsoft was to work on and encourage open source like NuGet. For the last few years I've been working in MSDN and STO (Server and Tools Online) most recently leading a community team with a great bunch of folks, including Joe Stagner, Jon Galloway, Rey Bango, Jesse Liberty, and Pete Brown. This week I'm leaving MSDN to go to work as Community Architect for the Web Platform and Tools (WPT) team under ScottGu, Bill Staples and Omar Khan. Pete will take over as the lead of my team and they'll all join Developer Guidance (née Patterns and Practices). We'll hang out a lot together, though, I have no doubt, and I'll be at the Patterns and Practices Symposium as well as PDC 2010 this year.

The WPT team includes ASP.NET, IIS, as well as open source projects like NuGet, ASP.NET MVC and Orchard. I'll be promoting Open Source inside and outside Microsoft, making sure the customers voice is heard as products are architected, as well as speaking and teaching whenever they'll let me. I won't be moving to Seattle. ;)

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Hanselminutes on 9 - Inside Ward Cunningham's Hardware Basement

October 5, '10 Comments [8] Posted in Channel9 | Hardware
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imageThis weekend I stopped by Ward Cunningham's house (you know, the guy who invented the Wiki. Yes, that Ward Cunningham) to hang out, and discovered Ward's treasure trove of electronics, software, soldering guns and web accessible sensor arrays that run 24/7/365.

Ever wish you had a real cool uncle that didn't take you fishing, but instead showed you how to create your own multi-processor computer with $2 chips off the shelf? Let's step into Uncle Ward's basement.

Check Ward at out at Channel 9. You can also download MP3s, iPod, Zune and other formats there.

You might also enjoy the complete "Hanselminutes on 9" Video Series, a completely non-scripted video show that happens spontaneously throughout the year. Here's some of my favorites:

Ward has all sorts of cool stuff going on in his lab. Look for him on an upcoming episode of Rob Conery's and my new podcast, This Developer's Life.

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WIN a FREE Phone with like NO effort and attend the Windows Phone 7 Developer Launch

October 1, '10 Comments [128] Posted in WinPhone
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image October 12th will be the Windows Phone 7 Developer Launch. There's an MSDN Simulcast event you can sign up for, that'll be a full day of training on writing Windows Phone apps.

In the US, there are also a lot of live in-person Free Events to learn Windows Phone 7 Development listed at I encourage you to register now as they are filling up fast.

A friend asked me to put a Windows Phone 7 banner on my blog, and I said half-jokingly, what'll you give me? Then I realized it's less interesting if there's a banner on MY blog and more interesting if there's a banner on YOUR blog.

So, I brokered a deal where two of you (US only for now, sorry, I seriously tried) will win a free Windows Phone 7.

Here's the legal rules they wrote, but here's my four-step layman's version.

  1. Go get a Windows Phone 7 banner or badge
  2. Put the image on your blog
  3. Link the image to
  4. Lie in wait

Now, they'll use Bingle/Gobing and a link: query to find two of you randomly, I'm sure, but even better, after you've done it, add a comment on this post and Iet everyone know!

Within 10 days after the final Windows Phone 7 developer launch event, they'll select TWO folks randomly. Your odds are good, friend. Like way less than 1 in a billion. We shall see. Go Go Go!

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(No, I'm not eligible, I already asked.)

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Hanselminutes Podcast 234 - Getting Things Done with Lane Newsom

October 1, '10 Comments [6] Posted in Podcast | Productivity
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Getting Things Done book

Scott chats with Getting Things Done (GTD) practitioner and MBA student Lane Newsom. How does she apply the principals of GTD in a practical way to her daily life?

Do also check out my related articles on the subject:

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