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Hanselminutes Podcast 254 - ASP.NET Web Forms - Reports of my Death of been exaggerated, with Damian Edwards

February 22, '11 Comments [15] Posted in ASP.NET | Podcast
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Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:24:12 AM UTC
Excelent! Just downloading it now, I'm eager to see what finally made it to HTML5!
Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:30:03 AM UTC
Wow, where did you get that photo from! :)
Wednesday, February 23, 2011 4:27:16 AM UTC
How come no mention of the future of UpdatePanel and AjaxControlToolkit?
Ray
Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:58:07 PM UTC
Thanks for this interview! I'm still in a webforms evironement, trying to get us up to .Net 4. It's good to hear that WebForms is still a first class citizen.
Wednesday, February 23, 2011 11:58:44 PM UTC
WebForms will always have its place in ASP.NET. I thought everybody was aware of this. Can we stop this dead argument?
Malcolm Sheridan
Thursday, February 24, 2011 12:51:39 AM UTC
Good morning Mr. Hanselman, I'm just new to asp.net MVC and we have a project to generate a chart in a web page with the data in the table. My boss want it to be downloaded to excel including the chart image. we are having problem in including the chart image. We already search the net for any clue or idea how to download include the image but we couldn't find it. YOur help is very much appreciated.. thank you.
Rey
Thursday, February 24, 2011 1:21:06 AM UTC
Rey - There's lots of ways. I googled and found many. There are many third party components that will let you create charts inside of an Excel Document, generated on the Server, then download them.
Thursday, February 24, 2011 5:15:56 AM UTC
Thank you for your feedback sir.. :-) I'm going to start a research now.
Rey
Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:41:19 AM UTC
Rey - Cool. Let me know if you need more help.
Thursday, February 24, 2011 5:30:27 PM UTC
Great to hear one thing I don't hear much about is performance Google has added performance to their search criteria so the next big buzz for SEO is going to be preformance I have two sites one MVC it's faster than 94% fo the sites out there and a WebForms ecommerce site I reworte using CodeFirst repository pattern with dependancy injection and of course the always flexable Object data source it's faster than 80% of the sites out there the webforms site has alot more data base action than the MVC site and it has to load alot of pictures I have viewstate still turned on so I guess thats a plug for ASP.NET that seems to be going unnoticed

I would also like to plug EF CodeFirst I find for data access it's a no brain-er way to go team Microsoft
Thursday, February 24, 2011 10:13:16 PM UTC
Now I feel that the next version of the asp.net is not as magical as I thought, but I hope to see some cool new futures as you said. Of course they can't rethink from scratch that makes their work very difficult.

Thanks a lot scott.
Sunday, February 27, 2011 7:10:01 PM UTC
Hi Scott, could you please provide some info about the next release of Webforms? When the next version will be launched?
Amit
Sunday, February 27, 2011 9:40:57 PM UTC
I think ASP.Net/WebForms is dead.... Thankfully, MVC is now out and it's much, much better. The thing that killed ASP.Net/WebForms was its proprietary JavaScript library. Who has the time to study or write custom components? and a thousand different script managers? and the time to put ASP.Net/WebForms on a diet after they get bloated?

Truly, Scott, Microsoft should start deep sixing stuff!
Wednesday, March 02, 2011 9:59:31 PM UTC
Hi Scott,

I love the podcasts. Really enjoy these and the developer's life podcasts.

I have to comment on the question that Scott asked about "programmer bigotry" at about 8 minutes.

Damien gave a great answer to your question. I work in a team of two developers, and I prefer ORM, MVC stuff. My co-worker she likes Webforms and Stored Procedures .. and we both have our reasons for our particular approach to these problems. What is quite funny is that it fits in with your bike/car analogy ... She drives a car I ride a bike.

I just found it very interesting how your comments mirrored exactly the discussions we have at work over the tea break.

Kind Regards

Luke
Luke Robbins
Thursday, March 03, 2011 2:43:24 PM UTC
Hi Scott,

I am glad to hear web forms will be improved. Especially the Model Binding part.

I would like to share with you and ASP.NET team if possible what I did for web forms. Maybe you will feel it interesting. http://aspnetmvvm.codeplex.com

Regards,

yysun
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