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Hanselminutes Podcast 99 - Mac Development with Panic's Steven Frank

February 8, '08 Comments [15] Posted in Podcast
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stevesunchips My ninety-ninth podcast is up. Seriously, 99. That's INSANE. We've got a special guest for the 100th show next week, but this show is equally awesome.

In this episode, I sit down with Steven Frank, co-founder of the Award-Winning Mac Development shop Panic. Panic develops software like Transmit (THE Apple FTP client), Unison (The Apple NNTP client) and most recently Coda, a "one window" web development IDE.

Oddly enough, they are also the only licensed provider of Katamari swag in North America, and their shopping cart interface is bangin'.

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Enjoy. Who knows what'll happen in the next show?

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Scott Hanselman is a former professor, former Chief Architect in finance, now speaker, consultant, father, diabetic, and Microsoft employee. I am a failed stand-up comic, a cornrower, and a book author.

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Friday, February 08, 2008 8:06:35 PM UTC
Hey Now Scott,
Another great show, it was interesting to hear the Apple side. Interesting you two went to school together too.
Hanselminutes Fan,
Catto
Friday, February 08, 2008 9:33:48 PM UTC
Great show. So what's the deal with the Sun Chips?
John
Friday, February 08, 2008 9:52:40 PM UTC
John - That's a old joke from when they were supposedly moving over to chips from Sun.
Friday, February 08, 2008 11:23:38 PM UTC
Yay! More Mac listening for on the (london) tube. Thanks!

BTW, the one with your dad was EXCELLENT. Really enjoyed it, and reminded me to prod my parents for stories from before I was around.
Friday, February 08, 2008 11:33:36 PM UTC
I feel bad linking to my blog twice in one day but that "Show Package Contents" mentioned on the show is useful for much more than delving into .app Application folders.

Some of the great things including finding new fonts, images, sounds and graphics to play with as well as being able to open partially-downloaded movie files.

[)amien
Saturday, February 09, 2008 4:56:28 AM UTC
An interesting interview!

We have Mac, Linux and Windows versions of our app and it's shocking how Apple deprecates APIs w/ total disregard for backward comapt or existing codebases! For example, at the 64-bit porting lab put on by Apple, we've learned that the older UI APIs (Carbon) have been deprecated and are will not be supported on 64-bit Macs. All apps must move to using Cocoa APIs -- this is a HUGE burden for our Mac devs! If this were MS, a revolt would ensue.
JPS
Saturday, February 09, 2008 4:58:31 AM UTC
..to be clear: the Cocoa APIs will not be supported in 64 bit apps on the 64 bit OSX. I do not know whether 32-bit apps will be "shimmed" to continue running. I'll be pleasantly surprise if so but it still does not facilitate us porting our 32-bit codebase to 64-bit on the Mac.
JPS
Saturday, February 09, 2008 1:06:18 PM UTC
Hey Scott, great pod cast! However, sounds like your throat was recovering from some crazy winter Illness. Hope your feeling better!

//M.
Matthew Savage
Saturday, February 09, 2008 2:07:20 PM UTC
Really enjoyed the podcast. More like that please. As a long time Windows developer, it's nice to hear how other platform devs work.
JF
Monday, February 11, 2008 6:29:57 AM UTC
that was a lot of fun.
Monday, February 11, 2008 7:33:18 PM UTC
I enjoyed this one! It was definitely nice to hear about "life in other cultures".
Ben
Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:24:55 PM UTC
Thanks for the great show, I really enjoyed it. As a daytime .NET developer and an evening-and-weekend Macintosh hobbyist I thought this would be a great opportunity to fill in a couple gaps. I've written up a post at my site that goes into a bit more detail on several of the topics covered in this episode:

A Discussion of Hanselminutes Show #99

Thanks for the great show Scott. I also really enjoyed the show with your dad. Keep 'em coming!
Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:32:44 PM UTC
Thanks for an excellent crash course in "App development for Mac" for a Windows/Linux-only guy. So much interesting content packed in a short show. Thanks a lot. Time well spent. I would love a follow up show which would go into deeper details.
Konrad
Thursday, February 21, 2008 4:11:28 AM UTC
"This is not just a high end game. This is a game that was like sent back by Sarah Connor from the future....runs of theoretical hardware... God's own video card... and I still drop frames on this game."

That was the funniest thing I've heard in years!

This was an awesome podcast and it's timing was perfect for me. I'm slowly taking taking on Mac stuff as a hobby. I've got a while till I learn the things that I need to know about it's architecture, it's subsystem, and... well.. how to USE it. I've been playing in Best Buy every day for the past two weeks playing with the new MacBook Air (I'm fairly certain they think I'm casing the place), I've got a lot of the shortcuts down and have obtained some ninja skills in the multi-touch.

Since I've been doing most of my work from virtual machines and almost all my development over RDP in the past year, I'm at the place in my life where I think I can be fairly platform independent in terms of my local platform. Therefore... next major purchase: MacBook Air! Well, ok, after they realize that a 4200rpm is a joke or that $1000 for a SSD is a bit much AND they get 4GB of RAM. Other than that, given the release of Office 2008, I have absolutely no reason to use Vista or XP locally.
Thursday, February 21, 2008 4:17:20 AM UTC
Actually, it just dawned on me that I use Google docs/Gmail for everything and haven't even touched my Office 2007 in the longest time! Nevermind!
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