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Hanselminutes Podcast 89 - Larry Osterman Makes Windows Go Ding

November 16, 2007 Comment on this post [17] Posted in ASP.NET | Learning .NET | Microsoft | Podcast | Programming | Vista
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larryo My eighty-ninth podcast is up. In this episode, I chat with Larry Osterman, the man who makes Windows go "ding", about his two-plus decades working for Microsoft. We chat about sound, Vista, Security and generally geek out. I really enjoyed this show and I want to visit Larry again as he's got lots of wisdom to share.

(I stole the photo from Channel9.)

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Scott Hanselman is a former professor, former Chief Architect in finance, now speaker, consultant, father, diabetic, and Microsoft employee. He is a failed stand-up comic, a cornrower, and a book author.

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November 16, 2007 17:26
Hey Scott, I know that is going to get harder the longer you work for Microsoft however I just wanted to point out the begginnings of some Microsoftisms and TLA's creeping into your speach. Towards the beginning of this podcast you mention "neo" which I assume is "New Employee Orientation" or something. Nothing major or anything that would spoil the enjoyment of this good episode (and during the later conversation you can put the word into context to guess what you are referring to) - but I thought you'd find it funny that you were using Microsoft speak already.

Hope you are having fun,

Martin.
Martin Woodward
November 16, 2007 17:51
When is your podcast going to be listed in the new Zune Podcast directory?
matt
November 16, 2007 17:53
Hi Scott,

this is not related to the topic at all, I hope that you don't get mad at me for spamming your blog. I just want to express my concern about one rather annoying thing. I am subscribed to the RSS feed for new online issues of MSDN magazine. Yesterday, in Google reader I saw a bunch of new entries, but when I click on the link to read an article I strike a missing page. I thought this was a temporary glitch, but it seems that it happens in every issue. I noticed you've written the End Bracket column of the new (Jan 2008) issue and again the link is available in my reader, but not online. I think that the guys should either not delay putting the articles online, or just remove the feed, it is useless if you can't follow the links. Has anoyone have an idea of how to contact them? There doesn't seem to be a way from their site (for non-subscribers). Sorry for the spam again and thanks for listening.

Slavo.
Slavo
November 16, 2007 17:54
Excellent choice of subjects. I've read Larry's blog for quite a while and he always has an interesting perspective on things. I'll be listening to this on my commute today.

Keep up the good work on Hanselminutes. Is it bad as a .NET guy that I find your show more interesting than .NET rocks?
Aaron B. Hockley
November 16, 2007 22:44
Slavo - I'll ask Howard, the MSDN Mag Editor in Chief.
Scott Hanselman
November 16, 2007 22:45
Matt - Good question! I asked to be included...haven't heard back.
Scott Hanselman
November 16, 2007 22:46
Martin - Eek! Thanks.
Scott Hanselman
November 17, 2007 17:05
I thought you'd find it funny that you were using Microsoft speak already.
LAWYER
November 17, 2007 21:11
Fascinating interview with a fascinating developer. Interesting to find out that the code base dates all the way back to the 80s. It would be interesting to hear from other old timers ( EmployeeID < 31) and see exactly how much they borrowed from Mac for Windows 1, 2 and 3 releases.
Robert G
November 17, 2007 21:38
Great podcast, Scott. I read Larry's blog on a regular basis and it's nice to hear you interview him.

Any chance you could snag an interview with Raymond Chen?
Chris
November 17, 2007 21:41
Just to qualify my last post, I mean another interview with Raymond. Your last one with him was really good.
Chris
November 19, 2007 0:19
Hey Scott,

Just as a complete aside, I just finished my 50k bike ride for diabetes. I managed to raise $525 for the ADA :) I finished in just under 3 hours, but that's with a 1/2 hour pit stop from a tire blow-out and a 15 minute water break (not to mention about 25 stop lights).

Phil DeVeau
Phil DeVeau
November 19, 2007 22:28
Slavo - The MSDN thing is fixed.
Scott Hanselman
November 20, 2007 22:06
To offer a contrarian view on this particular Hanselminutes, I found it one of the most mundanely boring episodes you have published. While I appreciate that someone has to do all of the low level OS stuff to enable sound to come out...how relevant is this to most application developers today? I'm glad somebody does this...but in the same sense I am glad somebody is monitoring the electrical service for my city...I'm not really that interested in how it gets done, or the obscure history of how it was done 15 years ago (Lan Manager)

I also found Larry to be overly pedantic...how many of us need to be informed that in order to ship software you have to prioritize and draw a line to determine which bugs are going to be fixed.

I much prefer the guests who speak to solving pervasive business problems or using new software engineering tools and processes to make their teams more effective and productive, or the topics where you discuss using cool new services and apps to solve personal productivity problems...loved the Sketchup/Google Earth house design episode and Windows Home Server episodes for example.

Pat
November 21, 2007 21:04
This was an excellent interview!! It may be that your interview style has changed but I thought you gave Larry as much room to speak as he wished, may be you were star gazing, who knows ;) either way this was really solid and interesting stuff!
Mark D
November 29, 2007 8:04
Nice interview!
Curt NIchols
January 09, 2008 5:25
I just got my Zune and am getting caught up on my 'casts... Yours is at on the top of my list (and DNR of course :)

The Speech Recognition "vulnerability" segment reminded me of a utility I wrote early last year to help people work around this "issue". It's a very simple "Speech Saver" utility (think Screen Saver but for Speech Recog) that turns off Vista's Speech Recognition after XX minutes of system or voice inactivity.

<a @href="http://www.codeplex.com/speechsaver">Speech Saver CodePlex Project</a>

Again, it's very simple, but it gets the job done and may help anyone concerned about this "vulnerability" (by limiting a system's exposure period...). It's free, source is available (VB8) and comments are always welcome. :)

Take care and thanks for the cool webcasts...
Greg

Greg

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