Scott Hanselman

Nantpad: The Good and the Bad of it

August 17, 2004 Comment on this post [8] Posted in Nant | Tools
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Good: Nantpad version 1.0 is out.

Good: Nantpad gives you a friendly way to author and run NAnt build files.

Bad: They have GOT to be kidding with the pricing. $250 a seat for an editor to an open source tool?  Come on, guys, NAnt is NOT that hard to edit.  $25, no brainer.  $50 gives me pause.  $250 must be a joke.  God bless you for trying. Now try again.

For now, I'll continue to use intellisense and VS.NET to edit build files as outlined in a previous post, using either this older schema or one from http://nant.sourceforge.net/schema/ whenever the 0.85 schema gets updated.

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Scott Hanselman is a former professor, former Chief Architect in finance, now speaker, consultant, father, diabetic, and Microsoft employee. He is a failed stand-up comic, a cornrower, and a book author.

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August 17, 2004 21:27
WTF?? They must have read the software equivalent of Field of Dreams, "if you develop it, they will buy...".
August 17, 2004 22:02
Or, more likely, they read Eric Sink's latest article on product pricing. http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnsoftware/html/software08052004.asp "Charge as much as you can get" (not an actual quote, just my summary) (The entire article is worth reading.)
August 17, 2004 22:30
I can't decide if this is hilarious, offensive or both. Figure things like ReSharper go for $99, CodeSmith for $75 or LLBLGen Pro for less than $250--they're clearly just out of touch or not extremely bright. Let's help them out and post what we think would be reasonable for them to charge. I wouldn't pay more than $25 personally, I have good editing capabilities for xml and it's just not going to save me that much time.
August 17, 2004 23:19
Come on give them a break. Gotta make a million before msbuild comes out
August 18, 2004 0:09
I personally don't think their price point is all that absurd. It's rather audacious to try to sell something which is an add-on for an open source technology anyway. The vast majority of people who use NAnt are simply not willing to pay a dime for this tool. Many of the ones who *are* willing to pay are probably not all that price-sensitive. In some sense, these guys have made a conscious choice to go with a "high-price-low-volume" approach. I generally prefer the higher volume strategies, but premium pricing is not as crazy as you might think. The interesting point for me is that they are selling only through a reseller. I'm sure Component Source is getting 40 points, so the ISV is only going to net 150. They probably set the price high to accomodate these channel costs. Bottom line: I'm not saying I like their choice, but I think it's conceivable that it could work out okay for them.
August 18, 2004 3:16
Amen, Brother. I can't sell this to my boss. :) I am fine using XSD + VS.NET Or good old nxml-mode in emacs. Thank you very much.
August 23, 2004 19:21
I fully agree with you Scott!
August 24, 2004 19:22
I read Erik Sink's article. The piece on price complaints was funny :) It's true. No matter what price you use including paying someone to use your product, there are always people who will complain. http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnsoftware/html/software08052004.asp

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