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This Developer's Life 2.0.5 - Typo

September 19, 2011 Comment on this post [10] Posted in Podcast
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Episodes 2.0.5 - Typo

Who cares about typefaces and why should you? Well, these guys do and you should start caring. Rob and Scott explore the world of reading online with one of the godfathers in the world of typeface and fonts.

In this episode we talk to Bill Hill, the bearded Scotsman who created ClearType and Geoffrey Grosenbach, notable typeface enthusiast.

I'd also like to encourage you to check out the last two episodes of This Developer's Life. We realize this isn't your typical podcast. It's not very technical, and it's not packed with information. We mean this show as an antidote to the usual technical talk shows as we try to dig more into issues and emotions that affect developers. We try to get to the center core of the developer and what makes them tick. Give us a listen and if you like the show, please review us on iTunes and Subscribe.

Download Episode 2.0.5 "Typo" here or listen online.

Also, please check out our last two shows you might have missed. We're very proud of how they turned out.

Episode 2.0.4 - Taste

2.0.4 Taste

What is taste? What is style? Do you have it? Scott and Rob have no idea what it is or how to get it - but they know it's important. In this show they talk to a designer who flexxes his good taste for a living - and a developer who is committed to spreading good taste where he can.


Episode 2.0.3 - Education2.0.3 Education

Scott and Rob discuss the value of a degree - and talk to two developers who used their passion to pull them through school and into their careers.


I hope you enjoy the show as much as Rob and I enjoy making it.

Again, big thanks to DevExpress. The bandwidth and other costs are picked up DevExpress and CodeRush! Visit them and thank them on Twitter.

This Developer's Life is brought to you by CodeRush for Visual Studio.

This Developer's Life is brought to you by CodeRush for Visual Studio.

About Scott

Scott Hanselman is a former professor, former Chief Architect in finance, now speaker, consultant, father, diabetic, and Microsoft employee. He is a failed stand-up comic, a cornrower, and a book author.

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September 20, 2011 3:11
Great episode. Speaking of typography, I feel I should mention that the "Download Here" link on the This Developer's Life page is very easy to miss. At the very least it needs an underline.
September 20, 2011 11:27
Underline for a link? That is so last year... :p
September 20, 2011 14:31
I made the same mistake last year. I had a big 32pt white headline saying "Try it now". It was a link, but it wasn't underlined and was the same color as the text around it. So people glazed right over it, and didn't click it. So I changed the link to a button and saw a 47% increase in the conversion rate.
September 20, 2011 21:09
That was an aaawesome show! It was so great to hear Bill Hill talking with such passion ^_^ Good job!
September 21, 2011 13:28
Steve - Interesting statistic you got there. It's surprising how many users do not bother to hover at all.
But I agree DotNetDude , underline for link feels like so last year and doesn't really fit metro style web sites. But if you don't use underline , changing color , weight and maybe even font is essential I guess. ( maybe white just doesn't resemble an active / dynamic content )

Oh and also great topic for this episode , listening it at the moment!
September 22, 2011 5:54
Very interesting, Steve! That reminds me: I was just on a message board where both the body text AND links are set to #000, with no underline until you hover. Needless to say, I wasted a good amount of time "hovering" all over the page to discover links lol. Not good.
October 03, 2011 13:03
Would love to grab and listen to this, but clicking ye old download link yields a 404 =O
October 03, 2011 13:04
I should try just a little bit harder! Working download link on the actual TDL page =]
October 12, 2011 1:36
You've read Just My Type?
January 22, 2013 10:38
It's not mentioned in the post, and in case anyone didn't know, Bill Hill sadly died in October 2012. A massively underrated and under-appreciated man, he is sadly missed.

RIP Microsoft ClearType Inventor Bill Hill

And like a true geek, he was hungry and excited to the end:

Normal Service Will Be Resumed As Soon As Possible

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