Scott Hanselman

This Developer's Life 2.0.7 - Dinosaurs

January 05, 2012 Comment on this post [18] Posted in Podcast
Sponsored By


You're so old! What a dinosaur! You're using old software and old languages to do old things! Or are you? Scott and Rob talk to David Sokol, Sean Bamforth and Pete Brown about Fortran, DataFlex and the Commodore 64. All these dinosaurs are doing useful work. Or, are they?

  • David Sokol Fortran Programmer and dude with an AWESOME hover state on his home page
  • Sean Bamforth Former Dataflex programmer and now beginning .NET guru
  • Pete Brown Senior Project Manager, Microsoft and budding Thomas Edison

I'd also like to encourage you to check out the last two episodes of This Developer's Life. We realize this isn't your typical podcast. It's not very technical, and it's not packed with information. We mean this show as an antidote to the usual technical talk shows as we try to dig more into issues and emotions that affect developers. We try to get to the center core of the developer and what makes them tick. Give us a listen and if you like the show, please review us on iTunes and Subscribe.

Download Episode 2.0.7 "Dinosaurs" here or listen online.

Also, please check out our last two shows you might have missed. We're very proud of how they turned out.

206-play2.0.6 Play

What do you do when you're not staring at your computer screen? What obsession grips you as you drive home? In this episode we ask David Heinemeier Hansson and Pete Brown this very question.

Episode 2.0.5 - Typo

2.0.5 Typo

Who cares about typefaces and why should you? Well, these guys do and you should start caring. Rob and Scott explore the world of reading online with one of the godfathers in the world of typeface and fonts.

In this episode we talk to Bill Hill, the bearded Scotsman who created ClearType and Geoffrey Grosenbach, notable typeface enthusiast.

I hope you enjoy the show as much as Rob and I enjoy making it.

Again, big thanks to DevExpress. The bandwidth and other costs are picked up DevExpress and CodeRush! Visit them and thank them on Twitter.


This Developer's Life is brought to you by CodeRush for Visual Studio.

About Scott

Scott Hanselman is a former professor, former Chief Architect in finance, now speaker, consultant, father, diabetic, and Microsoft employee. He is a failed stand-up comic, a cornrower, and a book author.

facebook twitter subscribe
About   Newsletter
Hosting By
Hosted in an Azure App Service
January 05, 2012 11:55
I think you made a 'Typo' in the 2.0.6 title ;)
January 05, 2012 12:05
January 05, 2012 20:27
Couldn't be more timely. So, I'm not a Fortran dinosaur, I'm a .Net dinosaur (well, and Delphi back in the '90s). I'm using most of the new cool stuff like EF with POCO, lambdas/thinking in functional, XAML, TPL,and etc. BUT. I'm OLD -- 40,and from what I hear out there, programmer years are worse than dog years.

Seriously, though. From what I hear, the industry isn't too kind to us once we're out of our 30's. Looking forward to listening to this podcast, just to hear what others have to say.
January 05, 2012 21:32
Liked the topic and interview, could have dropped half the annoying musical interludes though.
January 05, 2012 21:55
I especially enjoyed the podcast on typography. Since then I've been digging around the intarwebz all over at typography sites, playing with styles, media queries, fonts... love it.
January 05, 2012 22:01
Damon - too long or too many?
January 10, 2012 3:47
Spot on! Choose the right language for the job - I see biased developers too often.

Are programmers REAL programmers? Some are, some aren't.
January 10, 2012 5:52
Say what you like Rob, 80's music will always be the best! :-)
January 10, 2012 8:41
Wow, what a blast from the past. Didn't have a commodore, but I remember programming my TRS-80 Color Computer to make sounds using the play command. I once programmed all four hands from one of Bach's fugues and played them simultaneously on four different computers in the school lab. Talk about a symphony. So what if they were just flat tones, it was music to my ears, and hopefully to the other three guys hitting the buttons.
Love the show.
January 10, 2012 13:35
Just had to say I loved the music from Dinosaurs. The stories were interesting too. I was kind of shocked when I heard Sean was giving up dataflex after using it for 15+ years. Anyway great show, and hopefully Rob will let you pick the music on another episode.
January 12, 2012 1:04
Sorry, found some of the music distracting on this one. Otherwise, a great episode.
January 13, 2012 0:47
Best show so far. The honesty of the second act was a joy to the ear. Scotts music taste is da bomb. The music was most of the time nicely mixed with the speech. You know when its good if you are not paying attention on how its done anymore but dream away.
January 13, 2012 4:42
Ya, music very annoying. Show very interesting.
January 13, 2012 5:05
Also - Chaka Khan's I feel for you is not creative commons.
January 18, 2012 17:48
Thought I'd add my vote for the music in this episode - loved it. The only thing I didn't like was how the music was too loud/to in the foreground and made listening to and understanding the speaker hard - but that happens on all the other episodes too.

Maybe it's just me (I listen to the podcast in the car and hence am not giving it my full attention), but I'd prefer a more background/ambient approach to the music whilst someone is talking the music in this episode.

Then again Tom above says:
The music was most of the time nicely mixed with the speech.

So prehaps it's not just me.

This balance of music to speech was better is this episode that any of the others I've listened to - normally to music grates on me. Maybe it's that much of the music didn't have lyrics to interfere with the speech?
February 13, 2012 23:05
Could you share some links to the C64 music?
February 20, 2012 23:21
C64 music is all linked to on the Podcast site:
July 26, 2012 3:39
I *love* these podcasts! More, please. More frequently. Seriously - I'm jonesing here

Comments are closed.

Disclaimer: The opinions expressed herein are my own personal opinions and do not represent my employer's view in any way.