Scott Hanselman

VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Releases Made Easy

July 28, '07 Comments [19] Posted in Microsoft | Silverlight
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image Big day as the Orcas wave begins to crest on the way to release. Seriously, can we get a new clipart guy for the Visual Studio homepage? I've made my suggestion at right. ;)

Do outlines generally look overly complex and scary? Yes, they do. Is this complex? Not as much as you'd think. If you don't want to read the whole outline, just do any of these easy steps:


EASIEST

  1. Visit the Silverlight site, Download Silverlight 1.0 RC. Click Run.
  2. Download Visual Studio 2008 Express.
  3. Install.
  4. Relax with some Sleepytime tea and start coding.

EASY

  1. Visit the Silverlight site, Download Silverlight 1.0 RC. Click Run.
  2. Download and Install the Microsoft Secure Content Downloader 
  3. Select the Visual Studio Standard SKU you want from the dropdown and hit Save As.
  4. Take a Shower.
  5. Install. Run this file post installation. Online MSDN Library help is available.
  6. Relax with some Earl Grey tea and start coding.

HARDCORE

  1. Visit the Silverlight site, Download the Silverlight Alpha. Click Run.
  2. Download and Install the Microsoft Secure Content Downloader 
  3. Select the Visual Studio Pro SKU from the dropdown and hit Save As.
  4. Considering grabbing the local MSDN Library as well, either with the downloader or directly.
  5. Take a Shower.
  6. Install. Run this file post installation. If your machine ever had previous betas on it, be sure to run "DevEnv /resetsettings" once.
  7. Go download and install Expression Blend 2 August Preview
  8. Go download and install Silverlight Tools Alpha for VS2008.
  9. Relax with some Pepsi Max and start coding.

If you REALLY want to read the whole outline, here's the links and some context sprinkled here and there.

  • Visual Studio 2008 Beta 2
    • Downloads for the full versions here
    • Downloading Fast
      • Consider using GetRight to do your downloading. Set GetRight to use multiple HTTP Streams in parallel.
      • If you really want to get it fast, you might also try the Microsoft Secure Content Downloader (*cough* MSTorrent *cough*) if you're not behind a corporate firewall
        Microsoft Secure Content Downloader
    • Dealing with DVD Disc Image Files
      • The downloads are IMG files - Disc Images - and there's lots of ways you can deal with these. You can use Roxio or Nero and just burn the media. You can also:
        • Mount the IMG directly as a virtual drive with Daemon Tools or Alcohol 52%.
        • Use 7-zip to extra the image into a folder.
        • Remember that an IMG is just an ISO, so you can always rename it to .ISO and mount it
    • Features
    • Extra Special Goodness That's Worth Noting
      • ClickOnce and WPF XBAPs now work in Firefox.
      • TFS now supports Continuous Integration.
      • All the WCF and Workflow Projects and Designers are included in VS 2008 - no extra installers.
  • Silverlight 1.0 RC and Silverlight 1.1 Alpha Refresh
    • Two new Silverlights released today.
      • If you're a user, head over to the Silverlight Install Page for 1.0 RC. This new version will install VERY fast and will automatically update itself to new versions, including the released version of Silverlight when it's available.
      • If you like to live on the edge, like moi, grab the Silverlight 1.1 Alpha Refresh. Remember that this is the one with the .NET CoreCLR running in the browser.
  • Expression
    • Expression Blend 2 August Preview
      • Expression Blend 2 has been rev'ed to support these new Silverlight builds.
      • NOTES:
        • If making JavaScript only Silverlight apps is fine with you, you can still use Visual Studio Express 2005.

Thanks!

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Scott Hanselman is a former professor, former Chief Architect in finance, now speaker, consultant, father, diabetic, and Microsoft employee. I am a failed stand-up comic, a cornrower, and a book author.

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Saturday, July 28, 2007 7:11:12 AM UTC
Nice Post Scott.

Thx.
Saturday, July 28, 2007 7:31:19 AM UTC
Scottie, you're up too late at night......
Ryan Anderson
Saturday, July 28, 2007 7:53:10 AM UTC
Nonsense! I do it all for you, Ryan!
Saturday, July 28, 2007 10:13:57 AM UTC
Ok, But why do i have to read this on Scott's blog and it is not available direcly on the download page from Microsoft?
I was looking for a link with : what's new, etc...
Am i supposed to downoad Gb of stuff to find some obscure readme that details this stuff.?
LIVIU
Saturday, July 28, 2007 4:38:26 PM UTC
Hmm at least there is no bragging about your supper fast download speeds this time ;)
I couldn't get the image with 7zip. It only contained a readme.txt file.
Saturday, July 28, 2007 4:57:02 PM UTC
Aaron - The download speed bragging was implied this time. Look at the screenshot of the downloader. ;)
Saturday, July 28, 2007 6:42:19 PM UTC
No one is doing anything with Silverlight 1.0. At least outside of Microsoft. Everyone prefers to work with 1.1 due to the DLR being included.

If you have a list of 1.0 Silverlight sites I'd be interested. I haven't been able to find any. It's not even released yet and it's a dead version.
Saturday, July 28, 2007 8:20:22 PM UTC
Great post! My name is Ben I work with David Yack and I was wondering if I can run the 2008 Beta 2 on the same machine I have 2005. The 2005 box is not my main machine, but it's nice to have 2005 on there for emergencies. Plus, I have so many extenstions and "stuff" (Web projects, web deploy projects, ajax toolkit, etc...) on there I would hate to have to remove all of it. What do you think?
Saturday, July 28, 2007 8:42:49 PM UTC
@Ben H: yes, it's perfectly possible to have 2005 and 2008 installed on the same machine, the version selector will even open sln files created with VS 2005 with the old version. So go ahead, get installing!

@Scott: I may have looked over them, but have you added the VS 2008 beta 2 extensions for Silverlight in your post?

Sunday, July 29, 2007 5:45:01 AM UTC
BenH:

I'm the wrong Scott, but as far as I know you can run the 2008 beta on the same machine as 2005. The usual caveats apply since you will be running beta software. You've been able to run multiple instances of VS on a single machine since VS 2003 I believe.
Sunday, July 29, 2007 5:55:51 AM UTC
We love all Scotts here, no discrimination. Yes, you can run it all, just install in order.

I run 2003, 2005, and 2008 all on the same machine.

However, since we have multi-targeting in 2008 and can compile to 2.0, I just use 2008 for everything. On my new machine I won't install 2005. Remember that 2008 is a continuation of the 2005 code base, so it's everything Whidbey was and more, from an IDE perspective.
Sunday, July 29, 2007 6:01:18 AM UTC
I'm getting much better speeds grabbing it from MSDN than the Secure Content Downloader.

150 to 200KB/sec as opposed to 180-200Kb/sec with the content downloader. Not enough peers I guess?
nexusprime
Sunday, July 29, 2007 6:09:16 AM UTC
Actually, scratch that. download.microsoft.com is yielding by far the higher rate.

Any significant difference between the MSDN and publically available SKUs?
nexusprime
Monday, July 30, 2007 5:49:05 AM UTC
Thanks Everyone for your replies. I'm installing as we speak.
Monday, July 30, 2007 2:13:58 PM UTC
that is a bad photoshop job scott...:)
Someone
Tuesday, July 31, 2007 1:39:05 AM UTC
Pepsi Max is HARDCORE! Nice :-)
Tuesday, July 31, 2007 12:47:43 PM UTC
For dealing with ISO/IMG images:

I recommend very good CloneDrive from Elby:

- no restart needed after install
- works under Vista
- double click on ISO image is enough for mounting image as virtual drive.

Regards, Dejan
Wednesday, August 01, 2007 1:27:38 PM UTC
I agree with Dejan - CloneDrive is freakin' great for managing and mounting .iso/.img images... it's actually how installed VS 2005, SQL Server, Office, etc....
Sunday, August 05, 2007 4:02:54 PM UTC
Hi,

Some basic newbie questions.

Why is Expressions mentioned along with Silverlight ? Is it required for developing ASP.NET web applications ? Or is it just a designer which may be used if we want to add the look and feel ?

If we build an ASP.NET application, does XAML act as the design metadata for the UI ?

Thanks.
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