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The Sweet Spot of Multiple Monitor Productivity: That Magical Third Monitor

October 2, '11 Comments [85] Posted in Musings | Productivity | Remote Work
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Al Gore with Three MonitorsI finally took the time to install a monitor bracket this evening to support my center Dell 30" monitor. Installing a monitor bracket is one of those nice little things you can do to really spruce up your workspace. I had been avoiding it because I though it would be expensive but I found a bracket that would support 50 pounds for under $40. It was easier to install than I thought and I'm considering installing two more to support my other two monitors.

Yes, three. After blogging about multiple monitors for more than eight years (!) and going as far as hooking up five monitors, I've decided that three is the real sweet spot for productivity. Any more is overkill and any less cramps my brain. I admit five was insane. Fun, but insane.

I've always wanted more than one monitor. I remember sometime in the mid-eighties being thrilled when I discovered that I could install a monochrome "Hercules" card alongside my existin  g VGA card and type 'mode mono' from the DOS prompt while running Windows, Desqview or OS/2 and effectively run command line batch processes on one monitor while doing Windowy stuff on the other. This was 25+ years ago and I've never looked back.

Three really old CRT monitorsI've said before on Twitter, and I'll say it again, if you're a developer you need to spend money on a great computer, an awesome monitor, a fantastic chair and a good bed. And food. But the other stuff first.

Bill Gates has three monitors, Al Gore does, Larry Page does. Even Jeff Atwood. ;)

Many years ago Darrell Norton moved everyone on his development team to two monitors from one with amazing results:

After multiple monitors were introduced:

  • Productivity in lines of code per day increased 10%.
  • Defect levels decreased by 26%.

The New York Times said this about multiple monitors in 2006:

Adding a second monitor turned out to be the easiest, most cost-effective and significant improvement in my work since I replaced my modem with high-speed cable.

It's true. Once you get more than one monitor, you can't stop until you get to three.

Why Three Monitors and not Two?

I think three monitors is the perfect number because the center monitor is where your primary work happens. I usually run Visual Studio or my blogging software on this monitor. The second and third monitors are like rear view mirrors in that they are about 30 to 35 degrees angled in a wrap-around configuration and I glance at them for information while I work.

For example, here's some typical scenarios with me and my three monitors.

Development

Left Center Right
Documentation/PDFs/Browser Development IDE, Text Snippets Target App Browser, Application being Debugged

Blogging

Left Center Right
Browser with articles being referenced Windows Live Writer (blogging app) NetFlix, Hulu

Deleting Email

Left Center Right
Calendar Outlook Mail/Gmail Twitter/Facebook/G+

Without three monitors, you will be task switching, and I maintain that it's always going to be easier (read: lower effort) to glance to the side or turn your head than it will be to ALT-TAB and switch to the other apps. The more apps you run the more you'll be ALT-TABbing around.

I actually find with Windows 7 and three monitors that I use WINKEY+LEFT ARROW or WINKEY+RIGHT ARROW to move applications left and right on a single monitor or between monitors with SHIFT+WINKEY+ARROWS which means nothing is every obscured. That's the key with multiple monitors.

When using computers, out of site isn't out of mind. If it's not visible on the screen then it's you that has to store it. I propose that the amount of your memory that's used to keep track of what apps are running and what state they are in is less with multiple monitors.

Installing a Bracket

Installing bracket was somehow intimidating to me. Turned out I just needed to make sure that the bracket was exactly positioned such that the bolts went into the center of the stud. I had laser stud finder and used blue painters tape to mark off the edges. I used a small level to make sure it wasn't torqued, although since the monitor bracket I got supports rotation there's more room for error than I realized.

Then I was concerned it wouldn't support the weight a 30" Dell Monitor. Turns out that this "giant" 30" Dell Monitor is actually only 25 lbs without the stand. The bracket can support 50 lbs so I had lots of room for error there as well.

Seems there was really no reason for me to be concerned about installing a bracket. I debated using a desk mounted bracket, but my desk is chrome and glass and won't handle any kind of clamp.

The only downside to this operation and the bracket is that it only moves horizontally (with 15 degrees of vertical tilt. So, if I get another desk or change the height of this desk, I'll have to move it.

 Multi Monitor BracketsMulti Monitor Brackets

I have another motorized up/down standing desk to the right of my main workstation, so when I get tired of sitting I can move over to the other desk. That desk has a fourth monitor (it's disabled in my current configuration) that I often hook my laptop up to. That way, even if I'm at the standing desk using my laptop, I've still got a second large monitor.

The Result

Here's my setup as I sit in my chair. That

Three monitors is love

Here's a cheesy panorama of my setup I as swivel in the chair 180 degrees. The white table is motorized so I can sit and stand. It has another 24" HDTV/monitor with a Cisco Umi Telepresence system connected to it. I use it for LiveMeetings, NetFlix, Xbox or Cisco/Skype.

Panorama of my setup

I just can't think of any reason why a developer shouldn't have at LEAST a second monitor. LCDs are plentiful, low power and inexpensive. Most computers and laptops can run a second monitor and even a $100 video card can run three monitors.

Do you run multiple monitors? Why?

You don't? Why not?

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Scott Hanselman is a former professor, former Chief Architect in finance, now speaker, consultant, father, diabetic, and Microsoft employee. I am a failed stand-up comic, a cornrower, and a book author.

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Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:08:50 AM UTC
I use two monitors myself and will definitely upgrade to three as soon as I go back to using a desktop PC again.
James Makumbi
Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:09:23 AM UTC
I've been running three monitors for a long time now and it is something I know that I can't do without (that and my Wacom tablet). What I really like is the ability to fold the outer monitors in a bit... like an aircraft cockpit. For the most part the left is docs, browser, media; the center is the main app; while the right is usually the solution explorer, property windows, etc... I use the same configuration for photoshop.
Luke Olsen
Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:09:28 AM UTC
I've found that four is the perfect number of monitors for me. I have three in front and one right above the middle monitor. For development, I have my code in the middle monitor, APIs and documentation on the right, the running app on the left and tailed logs and/or database on the top.
Jake
Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:13:19 AM UTC
Using 2 monitors at work. One for visual studio or sql server and the other for mail, msdn, web.

At home i've got only one monitor and i can say that i'm lost with only one monitor ;-)
Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:21:31 AM UTC
From tomorrow, my work desk will have an external monitor to either side of the 17.3" screen on my new Envy laptop. I'm ridiculously happy about this.
Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:23:20 AM UTC
I used to run 2 monitors (usually a laptop panel and a monitor), however once I got a widescreen monitor, I went back to one. I'm way more productive and focused with just one, tho it's GOT to be a "large" (22-24"+) and high-ish res (HD)

I also found - the hard and expensive way - that a 27/30+ monitor doesn't work for me. It's too wide, and I have to move my head to see the corners: cue eye strain, neck strain, and severe headaches.

On the plus side, I have the same on my laptop, a 15" MBP with a 1680x1050, which means I am comfortable both mobile and desk-bound.

It also means I dont keep my email open unless I'm using it, which cuts distractions down a lot. Same with twitter etc. Basically just VS.NET and a browser.

The only situation where I use "two screens" is when I'm doing MonoTouch work, but I'm counting the app running on the iphone/ipad as a second screen....

So yeah, like a lot of things, I had that religion, but it wasn't working for me and I found something better (for me).
Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:26:07 AM UTC
amazing, i like it.. get motivated with the post.I always seen on movies but enhancing developer's productivity too.. thts good.. will setup soon.
Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:42:50 AM UTC
I know someone who still swears by his 6 24" monitors (13.8 megapixels). In his defense they are all portrait.

I use three and I agree it's the sweet spot. Ideally all portrait but I find 1050 (or 1080) wide too limiting I think you need 1200 pixels to do portrait.

What I think the next step in monitor productivity needs to be is higher resolution displays.
Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:49:08 AM UTC
My little slice of heaven, my home office, has 4 monitors: 2 x 28" in landscape flanked by 2 x 22" in portrait. It's glorious!

From L 2 R:
1 - Desktop/Fences, Windows Explorer, debugging
2 - VS and/or Blend, Fireworks
3 - Browsers
4 - Outlook, Seesmic, music app

Couldn't agree more about the chair. Just upgraded and the surprising favorite feature = independently adjustable arm rests. No more leaning! My posture sucks...
Sunday, October 02, 2011 10:14:00 AM UTC
elobdell: What chair did you get? I'm in phase of searching for one..
Sunday, October 02, 2011 10:32:36 AM UTC
is there a diet coke in the last picture? :-)
Sunday, October 02, 2011 10:35:59 AM UTC
I picked up this one from Staples - http://www.staples.com/Sealy-Biel-Bonded-Leather-Ergonomic-Task-Chair-Black-with-Platinum-Base/product-nr_900104

Nothing fancy, but a good chair within my budget. Can't speak for it long-term, but so far so I'm very pleased with it.
Sunday, October 02, 2011 11:01:07 AM UTC
I use a two monitor setup at work though i wouldn't mind getting a third screen. I like to have my developer environment clutter-free so I can focus on the code which is the reason why i run VS i fullscreen on the main and then have test-suite-runner window as well as a browser or the app being debugged on the other (though the need for the test-runner has been reduced after i started using the excellent ncrunch (www.ncrunch.net) which runs the tests continuously and display errors in the VS text-editor. I would like an additional monitor dedicated to a browser/pdf/other containing documentation as well, but two monitors is great none the less.
Sunday, October 02, 2011 11:19:09 AM UTC
I just added a third monitor on Friday afternoon! Looking forward to next week as I think it is going to make a nice improvement to my setup. I was finding that I was still minimising/maximising and alt-tabbing too much with two monitors.
Sunday, October 02, 2011 11:25:18 AM UTC
I have found three monitors in a horizontal row to be the sweet spot; I have 4 at work and the last one is just a little bit to far to the left to quickly glance at.

Also I have found that odd number rows work the best as you have a central screen, with an even number you end up staring at the bezel between two screens.

One thing I would really like is for VS to be able to save and load window layouts. for example I often end up with this
Tool windows | VS 1 | VS 2 | Tool windows
for VS1 | | | for VS 2


It would be nice to save a Left and Right layout and swap between them.
And finally if you can make sure each row has the same pixel height, so that you can make remote desktop sessions span your entire row of monitors.
Sunday, October 02, 2011 11:44:22 AM UTC
I apologize for being off topic.
I will just say I love "Breaking Bad". It rocks!
Sunday, October 02, 2011 1:25:49 PM UTC
At home I only have one becuase I don't have the room for more in my "work" space. At work I use 2, though if you can't using my WP7.5's SSH/VNC apps I might have 2.5!
Samuel Englard
Sunday, October 02, 2011 1:33:40 PM UTC
"out of site isn't out of mind" should be "out of sight isn't out of mind".

Also, while I agree that 3 monitors is ideal, a single 27-30" display that supports at least 2560x1440 is better than multiple smaller displays. Assuming the center display can be that large then my ideal would be to have a smaller (probably 20") portrait display flanking it on each side.

As it is, that would take up too much room on my desk, so I'll stick with a single large display + notebook for now.
Cameron
Sunday, October 02, 2011 2:10:49 PM UTC
Where did you get the motorized table? Was it designed specifically to be a standing desk, or is it something you re-purposed?

Matt
Sunday, October 02, 2011 3:49:03 PM UTC
At the moment I'm content with 2-24" monitors, mainly because anything bigger and/or more would require a whole reconfiguration of the desk and office.
Sunday, October 02, 2011 3:55:50 PM UTC
Rockin' a single 24" Samsung here. 24" is about the right size for working with Expression Blend. Any smaller and you're constantly resizing the columns and panning around.

I had two monitors at work for a couple years, and I found that I was rarely using the 2nd monitor. I mean, it obviously helps in those circumstances in which you actually need to compare two sets of information.

But if you're simply using your 2nd or 3rd monitors for Outlook and Facebook then I think they're just serving as distractions more than anything.
Sunday, October 02, 2011 4:02:41 PM UTC
I also have three monitors - I use one 30" flanked by two portrait 20" - they line up perfectly. I find this to be a "sweet spot" as well, and blogs, articles, email etc are great on a portrait 20".

One side note - try running Win8 like this... for some apps, suddenly an entire monitor hides all the windows I had and shows only one thing! Yikes! Docking it to the side changes the application to a "sidebar mode".. so I can't use metro apps effectively! What is great on a tablet does not work well on a multi-monitor desktop.

Phr
Sunday, October 02, 2011 4:04:05 PM UTC
I completely agree. I have three monitors (one big central monitor and two smaller ones at angles) both at home and at my office.

For what it's worth, if you don't have or want a video card that supports 3 monitors (I don't have one), the open source tool "Synergy" is an excellent alternative. It's billed as a "KM" solution (as opposed to KVM) and it lets you control multiple computers hooked to multiple monitors each with one keyboard and mouse. Coolest part is, it's cross-platform, so I routinely have an XP or Win 7 machine hooked up to two monitors and a Fedora or Ubuntu machine hooked up to the third.

Anyway, once you go to three, I don't think there's any going back. I'd get irritable with less. But, I've had 4 or 5 going, and I don't feel the same way -- I'm fine going back to 3.
Sunday, October 02, 2011 4:26:42 PM UTC
Well, on a related note, Code Bubbles IDE (the idea behind that) has a good potential to reduce the number of monitors developers need especially for debugging and editing multiple fragments of code.

That's because a big part of programmer's need for multiple monitors is due to the need they have for viewing and editing different files concurrently.
Sunday, October 02, 2011 5:05:50 PM UTC
I've incrementally migrated through several three display setups (17-19-17, 19-19-19, and 19-24-19) over the past decade or so, but recently dialed back to two 27s.

I began to notice that the third monitor was prone to harboring distractions like chats, Tweetdeck, and/or Hulu/Netflix more often than I used it for something productive. It was easy to justify that since it was all compartmentalized on the third display and I still had two to work with, but having those concentration-breakers a glance away was a net-negative for me. For whatever reasons, I've been better about not letting those distractions invade my new setup when I'm trying to concentrate, even though it's actually more pixels of real estate.

Couldn't agree more with the mount though. I've been using some Ergotron mounts for this and the previous setups, and it's just amazing how much desk you reclaim.
Sunday, October 02, 2011 5:22:48 PM UTC
A multi-monitor setup is definitely the key to productivity for any developer or designer. For many years I've used this same 3 monitor setup, with the largest screen in the middle. However for the past 3 years, I've been using a 5 monitor setup and absolutely love it. The trick is to go vertical. I use two ergotron vertical stands to hold a 27" on the bottom and a 24" on the top. I then have a 24" in portrait mode on the right dedicated to social media and chat...like twitter, g-plus, skype, etc. The center stand is dedicated to visual studio when i'm coding. As you can see in the picture, i have the code window on the bottom monitor and all of the tool windows in the upper monitor. Its extremely useful to have things like the resharper file structure window, source control explorer, and solution navigator always in view without ever getting in the way of my code. The left stand i dedicate browser apps, sql / linqpad, or full screen video.

Picture of my setup
Sunday, October 02, 2011 5:50:46 PM UTC
I'm currently running four 22" monitors @ work for development, and I personally have found four to be ideal. I've run more but find that five or more becomes redundant and are rarely used.

My typical usage dedicates the left monitor to docs/browser for research, two center monitors for Visual Studio and the browser running the application I'm debugging (sometimes I switch these back and forth between the two monitors), and the fourth monitor is dedicated to Outlook to monitor my email/chat or open defect tracking incidents.

When I added multiple monitors, I noticed a productivity increase and lessening of the burden of having to remember what I'm in the middle of doing. When previously running on a single monitor, I would frequently forget why I was sidetracked and doing what I was doing until I eventually task switched back to my email and had the "oh yeah" moment. This happened several times a day, wasting plenty of time. I'm constantly reminded of when benefits of multiple monitors when I have to work remotely on a laptop (single display) and am plagued by these same annoyances.
Sunday, October 02, 2011 6:29:35 PM UTC
Right now I am making duo with a 30 inch from Dell and my laptop monitor.

I notice you don't have the taskbar set up either to the right or the left. I have mine to the left, and especially when I am using my laptop, it saves my some precious vertical pixels. Most monitors are widescreen, so why not have the taskbar to one of the sides where it takes up less space and save the vertical pixels.

And since Windows 7 it has actually worked great as well.
Sunday, October 02, 2011 6:32:42 PM UTC
Mounts do make a world of difference. I couldn't ever seem to get my monitors high-enough and having them on top of piles of books didn't exactly make efficient use of my desk space (nor did it look very "pro"). I was blaming my desk for a lot of my issues, but a dual-monitor desk mount has made it clear that wasn't actually the problem. I have twice as much surface area as I used to now that my monitor and I'm just more comfortable now that the monitors are at better height.

With fear of sounding like a shill, I have to say that monoprice.com has mounts for just about every purpose imaginable at really reasonable prices. I was initially concerned about quality before I placed my order because there is a high-level of trust required of something that is holding so much easily broken money above a table, but it has been rock solid.
Sunday, October 02, 2011 6:38:47 PM UTC
I use two matched 24" monitors but keep one as the center monitor with the other off to the right. I couldn't imagine putting the split in the middle, and yet it seems like a lot of people do that.
Sunday, October 02, 2011 7:02:17 PM UTC
I've gone completely the other way. I had a Windows box with 3 screens that I used to do development on, and now just use for gaming - the 3 screens work well for that.

Against my expectations I've found that a Macbook Air 13 is pretty much the perfect development PC for me. Textmate full screen is all you need and the previous aversion task switching was a red herring just feeding ADHD.

You do not need to have a browser, an IDE with one thousand toolbars and/or a PDF reader open to get work done. You just need to code, and not keep being distracted by blinking icons/screens/gizmos. Jumping into google, flicking attention in and out is not a good thing.

I know this is a deeply unfashionable opinion here (at the temple of monitors :) ) but since moving out of the Microsoft eco-system I've found that one screen / full screen / minimal distractions is the perfect way to go for me.

Stop with the toys. Code well. :)
Gary Y
Sunday, October 02, 2011 7:59:56 PM UTC
@Gary Y - I Agree when I start coding all the noise is turned off (email, twitter etc).

But the multi-mon still wins every time especially when debugging or using profiling tools.
Sunday, October 02, 2011 8:11:10 PM UTC
> you need to spend money on a great computer, an awesome monitor, a fantastic chair and a good bed

I'd say (if you want to still use computers when you are 60+) you first have to learn to listen to your body to figure out what works ergonomically for you. It's hard to get any productivity with a disabled arm and neck, isn't it? So the height of the monitor/desk/chair is in the long run more important then the monitor/desk/chair itself. And if you arm hurts when you go to sleep it still hurts the next day, however good your bed is.
Marc Schluper
Sunday, October 02, 2011 8:11:45 PM UTC
4 monitors. 4th one above the middle. Been using multi-monitors since 1995.
Sunday, October 02, 2011 8:15:00 PM UTC
Oh, kind of in the same vein of this topic. When using multi-monitors, I find a 4:3 ratio monitor is a lot more efficient than wide-screen monitors. This is because vertical screen real estate is much more important than horizontal when you have the extra monitors to take care of extra apps. Unfortunately, no one makes 4:3 anymore. It really sucks.
Sunday, October 02, 2011 8:48:42 PM UTC
I use 3 24" Dell monitors at work, with the right monitor in portrait. At home I use a Dell 30" + a Dell 24" to the right in portrait. I want to add an additional 24" to the left at home in portrait.

Pic of my current home office setup here:

<img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6179/6205059314_1a36188fe0.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Home Office Desktop">
Sunday, October 02, 2011 10:45:59 PM UTC
Great post, Scott. Agree on absolutely everything. In fact, I agreed back when I've read the post you linked to on Jeff's blog, where I came across the following comment by Andrew:

"The nicest 3-monitor setup I have seen recently is a Dell 30-inch widescreen TFT with two regular 20-inch TFTs in portrait mode, one on each side like "wing mirrors". The 20-inch screens in portrait mode are almost exactly the same height as the 30-inch, and the resolution matches (the 20's are 1600x1200, and the 30 is 2560x1600) so you get a 4960 x 1600 desktop. Real estate for everything you need, plus it looks pretty elegant too. "

I remember thinking "I have to try this!", and became so obsessed about it that shortly after I was running this very setup myself. A Dell 3008WFP on the middle, dual Dell 2001FP's in portrait on each side (all S-IPS panels). Never looked back since, and I actually get a very claustrophobic feeling every time I need to undock and work on my laptop's tiny screen alone.

In my case, I find the 2560 pixels of the center display far too wide for Visual Studio alone, and feel coding more comfortable in portrait mode (kind of like Phil Haack's setup). So I split the center display in half, VS on the left and target app browser on the right (being a web developer, 99% of my task switching happens between these two windows, so having them both in the center feels really convenient). Then the left and right monitors are used for more general stuff, like a secondary web browser, IM windows, Notepad++, music playlist, etc.

We seem to be in sync somehow; you post this, and just last week I finally decided to get arms for all three monitors. I have a big desk, but more than half its space is wasted with the monitor stands. I got three Ergotron MX's since I needed the height and pivot adjustments. I haven't installed them yet, but them seem very nicely made.

Finally, a little tip. Although Windows 7's Win+Left and Win+Right are a godsend in landscape mode, they're nearly useless in portrait mode where splitting the screen in top and bottom is more useful than left and right. I solved this by installing a free utility called WindowPad (www.autohotkey.com/forum/topic21703.html). This great little app lets you snap windows to the left, right, top, bottom, even to all four quarters, all this mapped nicely with the numpad keys, so it's very easy to pickup. I'd go as far as saying it is a must for any multi-monitor setup.

Here's a couple of pics of my setup. I took these last year, so the arms weren't there. I'll add a few more once they are installed:

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjwqNLef
Monday, October 03, 2011 1:31:54 AM UTC
In the past I have used 2x2 monitor arrays, but since moving to portrait "tallscreens" I've never looked back. Six 24" Samsung BW2443+ tallscreens in a natural curve will (just) fit on a standard 1800mm x 900mm desk (~6' x 3'). I work with another developer who has five of these tallscreens, and another five draftsmen who have each converted to 4x tallscreen setups. For movies wider is better, for actual work taller is better!

Three probably is the sweet spot for landscape screens; any more and the screens would end up too far away, and your desk would need to be huge.

@Daniel Liuzzi: thanks for sharing the WindowPad link. Win+Left and Win+Right is not "nearly useless in portrait mode", it's completely useless! I've got WindowPad up and running; it's great.
Monday, October 03, 2011 4:21:07 AM UTC
In my case, going from 2 to 1 monitor was the best thing I've ever done.
After various visits to the physio and studying my work area, it seems that multiple monitors was the reason that was causing my neck, shoulders and upper back stress after several hours at work.

If anybody reading this blog has these symptoms, try to work with a single display and see if you recover.

It's difficult at the beginning to get back to a single screen, but you get used to it. Even more, I've found that productivity increases because you focus only on your work rather than switching context all the time and loosing track of what you were doing, in a similar way than a processor that switches context with a quantum that is too short ends up using more time switching context that doing real work.

But of course, every case is different.
Roberto
Monday, October 03, 2011 5:04:31 AM UTC
I have two monitors, but 3 would be nice so after reading this and searching the web... (no not for a new job) I found some software so i can use the laptop as screen 3 and only use one mouse and one keyboard.

http://blogs.technet.com/b/next/archive/2011/09/09/microsoft-garage-download-mouse-without-borders.aspx

(I know there are other sw that does the same but this software works for me)

And with a pice of paper on the laptop covering the keyboard I have 3 monitors ...

Monday, October 03, 2011 5:13:29 AM UTC
I have just started with using 2 monitors, and I have to say I really like it. Both monitors are Samsung 22" @ 1920x1080.

I am generally using the left monitor for Visual Studio (full screen), and the right monitor as where the application is running.

I can definitely see having a third monitor, probably in Portrait for reading online articles or using NookPC for reading from my technical ebooks collection.

What I havent liked so far is managing the different screens is a pain - but I will look at Ultramon and WindowPad. Any thoughts on which is "better" - dont care about price - $40 is not going to break the bank.

2 specific questions on this: how to get Google Desktop to doc on the right hand side of the "main monitor" (the same one where my Windows Taskbar is)? And can I tell IE or Chrome or whatever which monitor to startup on? Issue being that a browser has a double life - one is for testing application under development, and the other is for "real usage" (sites etc) that I want on my main monitor.
Monday, October 03, 2011 5:14:29 AM UTC
Forgot to ask: how do we see this changing with Windows 8 and touch? Middle screen would be touch, and the side view mirrors would be non-touch? All 3 touch?
Monday, October 03, 2011 6:21:50 AM UTC
Your setup is so old school. 2010 stuff..!!!
I need at least 4 screens!
I'm not even joking. Try input director. I need that extra laptop connected for RDPs, Citrix sessions, etc. It's become as addictive as that second screen became some years ago.
Among advantages, you don't even need to click to change window: it already has focus on that other computer.
Of course, paper is not allowed onto my desk. Only non IT object allowed: red bull.
NNM
Monday, October 03, 2011 7:31:50 AM UTC
One additional comment, Scott. I'm not a fan of putting monitor arms directly into the stud. Assuming the wall behind the monitors is pretty much hidden from view, I would prefer to attach a strip of wood horizontally across the wall, securing it across a couple of studs. I would then attach the monitor arm(s) to the strip of wood. This gives more flexibility in deciding where to put the arm, and gives you the option of adding more than one arm.
Monday, October 03, 2011 9:32:55 AM UTC
Very interesting to read about everyone's setup. I used to have 2 and sometimes 3 monitors but it seems that concentrating on an off center screen with, for example, a long email, was not doing my neck any good. Since I've been back to a single 24" monitor all is good. The multi-monitor jealously isn't as bad as the crock neck :)
Monday, October 03, 2011 12:07:01 PM UTC
All I can say is: Go Mr. White! :)
Andrés
Monday, October 03, 2011 2:42:37 PM UTC
I want this system!
Regards from Argentina.

Francisco
Francisco
Monday, October 03, 2011 2:43:03 PM UTC
I use 2 monitors for my setup. It works really well for me! I generally keep something like my browser, Visual Studio, or a game on my main monitor and folders, documents, or a VoIP client on my 2nd monitor. I would use 3 monitors but my desk is rather small and the material is practically cardboard so it wouldn't be able to support a monitor bracket.

I'll likely get a new desk in the future so I may invest in a 3rd monitor then.
Monday, October 03, 2011 2:43:11 PM UTC
I forgot the link... :-$

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-MD230X3-SyncMaster-3-panel-Display/dp/B003HF8QL0/ref=cm_cmu_pg__header
Francisco
Monday, October 03, 2011 2:51:41 PM UTC
I use 2 monitors for my setup. It works really well for me! I generally keep something like my browser, Visual Studio, or a game on my main monitor and folders, documents, or a VoIP client on my 2nd monitor. I would use 3 monitors but my desk is rather small and the material is practically cardboard so it wouldn't be able to support a monitor bracket.

I'll likely get a new desk in the future so I may invest in a 3rd monitor then.

(Sorry for double post. My OpenID settings weren't configured properly).
Monday, October 03, 2011 3:05:01 PM UTC
I would love to put 3 monitors up and on brackets, but that won't work on my fabric cubicle walls. :(
Dave
Monday, October 03, 2011 5:30:45 PM UTC
Home, 1 26" monitor 1920x1200

Work, 2 24" monitors 1920x1200

I recently approved 2 of my team members going up to 3x on the monitors. I feel the 3rd would be a productivity loser for me. However I've never actually used 3.
Monday, October 03, 2011 5:34:57 PM UTC
At work we have one big monitor and then our laptops, so we effectively get dual monitors.

At home, I only have one but it's because my desk isn't big enough to hold 3 comfortably. I will wait until we move to a bigger place (summer) before investing in a better setup. I also don't do a ton of development at home; mostly gaming. I'd like to eventually have a dedicated dev machine rather than dual booting like I do now, mostly for convenience's sake. Since I want to upgrade my current machine, I could set aside the old (but still fine for development) parts for a dedicated machine.
Monday, October 03, 2011 5:53:56 PM UTC
I used dual monitors but recently switched back to just one, I had the impression that 2x generated more eye discomfort and one monitor reduces the amount of eye strain.

Do you have experience eye strain when using multiple monitors?

Here are some tips for avoiding this:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/119064/tips-for-reducing-eye-strain

Monday, October 03, 2011 8:42:02 PM UTC
@Daniel Liuzzi: I love your setup! I'm currently using two 23" Samsungs with my desktop PC at work, and one 20" iMac at home. I'm a web/graphic designer, so my wants/needs may differ from those of a straight-up developer, but I do sometimes wonder if I should ditch my personal iMac in favor of a setup similar to the one I have at work?
Monday, October 03, 2011 9:09:07 PM UTC
As a developer I can't live without my dual monitors neither a work or at home and a 3rd monitor could be useful. If you want to have some fun with your setup you can try to run my multimonitor capable screensaver.
Monday, October 03, 2011 10:56:07 PM UTC
I find it useful having one of my three monitors in portrait orientation. The two landscape ones are stacked vertically, with the portrait one besides them.
Richard Edwards
Tuesday, October 04, 2011 12:57:26 AM UTC
Thank you @Kristina!

About the PC or Mac decision, I guess it comes down to personal preference and whether you feel more comfortable working on Windows or OS X. Either way, the good news is that you can create a multi-monitor setup on both environments.

In case you want to stick to OS X -which I think you most likely will- there's no need to ditch your iMac. If it is the newer generation (2011), you have two Thunderbolt connectors on the back. You can use these to plug two external monitors, either Cinema Displays, or any brand you like with a couple of cheap adapters.

And if your iMac is the older generation without Thunderbolt, you can still hook up one external monitor to its Mini DisplayPort connector. If you need more screen real estate, you can even add more monitors (up to six) by using a DisplayLink adapters (www.displaylink.com). These adapters convert a standard USB port into a DVI connector you can plug a monitor into, like an external video card of sorts. This is what I use to hook up my third monitor, since my ThinkPad only has two display outputs.

I hope this helps. Feel free to ask if you have more questions.

@danielliuzzi
Tuesday, October 04, 2011 1:20:09 AM UTC
@Michael Csikos

I'm glad you liked WindowPad. It, along with Launchy, is one of those things I simply cannot live without. They work great in tandem, opening up new windows and moving and snapping them around in seconds is priceless. You sure have a hardcore setup. Share some pics! I can only imagine what working in front of an array of 6 portrait monitors must feel like!

@danielliuzzi
Tuesday, October 04, 2011 3:12:48 AM UTC
I have 2 monitors. A 30 inch Dell in the center, and a 21 inch Dell on the right. I run Visual Studio in full screen on the center monitor most of the time, and run Outlook full screen on the right. The left side is monitor-free, so the setup looks a little unbalanced, but I like having the left side free for putting books there.

I've thought about getting a 3rd monitor. Now what would be really cool is if I could find a 3-monitor arm that allows me to fold the two side monitors in and behind the center monitor. Then I'd have lots of flexibility. That would be sweet, but don't know anyone that makes one.
Kevin Dietz
Tuesday, October 04, 2011 3:24:33 AM UTC
@danielliuzzi: Now you've got me checking out Lauunchy...

My current setup:

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/269779_10150339022254418_747439417_10170762_6286772_n.jpg

All six screens are running off a single Asus EAH6950 with four active DisplayPort-to-DVI adaptors.

Others have suggested multiple monitors may contribute to eye-, neck- and back-strain. I haven't found that to be the case, but I'm a big fan of looking after your body at work.

I use a TypeMatrix Dvorak keyboard, a HandShoe mouse, Bamboo Touch and a standup desk. I have a coffee table under the desk which I use as a foot-rest (I swap feet frequently) and I take my shoes off as soon as I get to work. No shoes also changes the way you walk: You tend to pad around on the balls of your feet, minimising the impact on your heels.

I think it's also important to make your eyes focus on distant objects regularly throughout the day. If your desk isn't near a window, take a walk and look outside.

We built our standup desks out of 3-drawer filing cabinets and standard office tabletops, with some angle screwed in underneath for reinforcement. We have four workstations in a single line made with five filing cabinets and four tabletops. They were much cheaper than commercial standup desks, look good, and are very practical.
Tuesday, October 04, 2011 7:49:52 AM UTC
@Michael Csikos: Yup. It looks as impressive as I imagined it :) Great setup! I can see you have put a great deal of thought in it, especially in regards to all the ergonomics considerations.

By the way, I love that VOTE FOR PEDRO button badge LOL.
Tuesday, October 04, 2011 2:56:09 PM UTC
What kind of carbon foot print is Al Gore leaving with those giant monitors.
Tom
Tuesday, October 04, 2011 8:34:36 PM UTC
So I have a laptop on a docking station running win7. I use a second monitor currently and I like to add a 3 monitor (laptop + 2 LCD panels). Adding a 2nd monitor was no brainer. How do I add third monitor? Docking station has a digital and analog vga port. I use digital port currently, but when I try to use the third monitor, the laptop screen goes blank. Any cheap solutions out there other than buying what Jeff Atwood has mentioned in his blog?
xia
Tuesday, October 04, 2011 11:14:33 PM UTC
@xia,

Most laptops support only two simultaneous outputs at a given time, and that includes the laptop's own display. So even if your dock has more connectors, you normally can run for example the laptop's display + an external monitor, or 2 external monitors with no output in the laptop's display off.

For example the Mini Dock Plus I use with my ThinkPad T410 has a total of 5 outputs: 2 DisplayPorts, 2 DVIs, plus 1 VGA, but it can only run two at the same time. So I use a Diamond BVU195 USB-DVI adapter to overcome this.

The only exception to this that I am aware of are some select ThinkPad models that come with NVIDIA Optimus Technology. In essence, these let you use the discrete AND the integrated display adapters simultaneously, so you can run up to four displays with the dock alone, without USB adapters of any sort. See http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/detail.page?LegacyDocID=MIGR-76617 (I don't know if there are other brands/models that allow this.)

@danielliuzzi
Tuesday, October 04, 2011 11:21:03 PM UTC
@xia

One of the draftsmen I work with has a laptop running Windows 7 with three external monitors. We purchased a bunch of USB-to-DVI adaptors off eBay for about $60 each delivered. To our amazement, they perform extremely well in very large 3D AutoCAD models, presumably because they offload all the processing to the CPU. In fact, the i5 laptop and USB video card combination performs as well as some of the other workstations in the office with $2000 nVidia Quadro cards.

To us, this really proves that you don't need a "workstation" graphics card to get good 3D performance in AutoCAD, and/or Autodesk don't have a clue how to write decent drivers to utilise the GPU power. Since making this discovery, all our new workstations have relatively cheap $250 graphics cards, 16GB RAM and the fastest i5 CPUs. (AutoCAD doesn't multithread well so i7 is a waste of money.)
Wednesday, October 05, 2011 12:33:10 AM UTC
"LCDs are plentiful, low power and inexpensive." Sadly, they're only inexpensive in the First World. Here in the Third World a barely decent LCD can easily cost as much as rent, due to customs duty, middle men, and the obvious fact that we don't nearly make as much money (expressed in USD).

Personally when I got a 23" LCD I kept my old 17" CRT as a second monitor, still better than a single LCD of course...
Wednesday, October 05, 2011 12:42:27 AM UTC
This is nuts! I've been wanting a three monitor setup like this but didn't have the "data" to justify the decision. Thanks for doing that for me. Now, do you have a suggestion for an ideal workstation/desk to handle all this?
Wednesday, October 05, 2011 1:46:01 AM UTC
2 monitors - one code, one debug .... I wish 3 (with Outlook...)
Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:00:45 AM UTC
Thank you Daniel and Michael. I found this on amazon. Let me know if any of you have heard of it.

http://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Multiple-2048x1152-1920x1200-DisplayLink/dp/B0038P1TP4/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_1
xia
Wednesday, October 05, 2011 5:28:53 AM UTC
@xia,

I haven't heard of it, but judging by its reviews it seems a great value. I believe it has the same internals as the Diamond BVU195 I have (DL-195). If you check http://www.displaylink.com/shop/index.php?product=5 you will find a list of all all USB graphics adapters that are DisplayLink certified, and for each model they specify which chip they use (i.e. DL-195, DL-165, DL-125, etc.) As of now, the DL-195 is the one that supports the highest resolution.

If you want bleeding edge, there is a DL-3500 chip in the works that will be able to drive a 2560x1600 display via USB 3.0. It was demoed a couple of weeks ago at IDF 2011, but I don't think there's an ETA yet. Check http://www.displaylink.com/news/pressreleaseviewer.php?type=2&id=107 for the press release.
Wednesday, October 05, 2011 6:03:26 AM UTC
@xia

They're not the same as ours, but the specs look virtually identical. I would suspect the forthcoming 2560x1600 that Daniel mentioned would be quite a bit dearer than those ones, too.

Unless you already have a 30" monitor, keep in mind that you could buy up to four 1920x1200 monitors and USB adaptors for the price of one 30" screen. Run them in portrait mode and you've got a 1920px tall desktop: 320px taller than a 30". For my money, multiple portrait screens are the best value for any kind of development or document-based work.
Wednesday, October 05, 2011 7:37:50 PM UTC
Not specifically related to productivity, but it will be nice in Windows 8 when we can switch to the desktop and see one photo stretch across the 3 monitors. If you select the right wide photos, it might provide a slight corner office feel to those of us without a good view in our work space. ;-)
Thursday, October 06, 2011 8:43:52 AM UTC
Having started quite a few years ago with a single 14" CRT(!), I now enjoy my dual 24" LED monitor setup (actually, one Samsung 25.5" and one HP 24"). Although I agree with what you say about the third monitor, I think it would choke my sense of space - I need to have a free "escape point" for my vision as I work.


Friday, October 07, 2011 2:03:35 PM UTC
I use three monitors and love it. How do you handle it when you're using a program on the right monitor and that program pops up a dialog on the left one? Is their some way to keep it from doing that?
Monday, October 10, 2011 9:42:38 PM UTC
Studies have shown that when the lighting is turned up in an office, productivity goes up. Then it goes down again. When the lights are dimmed again, productivity goes up. Then it goes down again.

What the studies show is that change causes productivity to go up and then it goes down again once the change has been assimilated. I wonder if the folks that measure an increase in productivity with the addition of the 3rd monitor stick around to see if productivity goes back down again or, even more fun, if it goes up when a monitor is taken away.

I have avoided adding a 2nd monitor to my workstation for the same reason that I avoid Everquest and cocaine -- I'm afraid I won't be able to give it up after I've tried it. The benefits of having a single laptop that I can take with me and work anywhere are benefits that I enjoy and do not want to give up for the high of another monitor (or two).
Thursday, October 13, 2011 7:49:51 AM UTC
@csells

The lighting/productivity/change is an interesting thought, but I don't think it's 100% applicable to multiple monitors. An extra monitor or three is all about pixels. How many lines of code can you see at once? Can you compare two or three documents side-by-side? Can you see a help file or sample code without constantly Alt+Tabbing?

To test the theory, feel free to run your laptop with less pixels for a while: something like 1024x768 should be sufficient to frustrate you ;-)

Extra screens are addictive, but they help me work better and most of my time is spent in one office. When I do have to work somewhere else with less screen real estate, it reminds me how good I have it back at the office. And if a change really does boost productivity, having multiple monitors in one office and only one when you're abroad would be beneficial, right?
Sunday, October 16, 2011 8:52:49 PM UTC
I'd love to have at least two monitors, but cannot afford it for now (and I guess I won't be for quite some time heh).
Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:41:01 PM UTC
Speaking of multiple monitors and Code Bubbles, take a look at this.
Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:37:17 PM UTC
I just got my 4 monitors setup from 2 before. It is so efficient. My ones are all Dell. From left to right are 2007FP at portrait, then 3008WFP, then two 2009WFP in portrait. At work I have 2 Dell 2408WFP.
Saturday, May 05, 2012 3:25:22 PM UTC
You would not believe how many corporations do not do multiple monitors because a manager who only uses outlook and a browser or excel cant deal with it and therefore none of staff would ever need it. it's so ridiculously easy to cost-justify a 24" LCD nowadays I think shareholders of these large company's should fire any manager who doesn't mandate it for his developers at least. Not having them is a waste of company labor $$$ for sure.
Alan
Monday, October 22, 2012 3:37:52 AM UTC
I read your comments about 3 monitors. Did it bother your eyes to have different sized monitors. I currently have two 24 inch monitors, but my spreadsheets need higher resolution. So I am debating 2 30 inch versus 3 27 inch monitors.

You have made me consider keeping my 24 inch monitors and adding a 30 inch? your thoughts about size and consistency.
Greg Berry
Monday, October 22, 2012 4:36:05 PM UTC
Greg - No I haven't had an issue as long as the DPI of the monitors is the same.
Friday, November 09, 2012 9:48:31 PM UTC
I'm using 1 13"1366x768 ultrabook and 1 19" 1440x900 monitor.

The reasons are suit to what you said, less effort needed comparing to pressing alt-tab respectively or scrolling both horizontally & vertically.

Thanks for great share, Scott.
Friday, December 14, 2012 6:18:12 AM UTC
I'm currently running 7 monitors 2 20" on top 2 19" in portrait on the bottom 2 24" one on the left and the one on the right is an Asus et2410 AIO that powers the whole thing. The Asus monitor is also mirrored on a 46" HDTV that I have behind my desk in the living room area of my basement. I use 5 pluggable DVI to USB display adapters and the HDMI output on the Asus
Derek Smith
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